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it gives barack obama the right to print money to spend as much as he wants to. melissa: there is one catch, ian. one point they make we're not printing it to spend money. we already spent this money. it's gone. so we're just sort of fixing part of the debt problem. >> you could make $3 trillion coins which is why it won't happen. the reason it won't happen is politics. if they do this and get away from the debt ceiling thing it gets republicans off the hook. from obama's perspective leting a deal not happen and falling over the cliff, all the polls show republicans will get blamed for that. why would he want to avoid that? melissa: jonathan, are there obvious inflationary problems on this? someone following us on twitter says you will need it to buy a loaf of bread soon. what do you think? >> this is one ounce platinum coin. you can put any value that i want but has real value of $1600 a ounce. if they think this plan works you have to be in the chain gang or belief in the tooth fairy. it is delusional on its face. reality exists. it can't be conned. as the pane
it gives barack obama the right to print money to spend as much as he wants to. melissa: there is one catch, ian. one point they make we're not printing it to spend money. we already spent this money. it's gone. so we're just sort of fixing part of the debt problem. >> you could make $3 trillion coins which is why it won't happen. the reason it won't happen is politics. if they do this and get away from the debt ceiling thing it gets republicans off the hook. from obama's perspective...
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you have just said the skunt a center right country and your evidence of that is that obama won? >> no, that's your evidence. >> what evidence do you have that it's center right? >> what i'm talking about is on the issue that is the conservative movement is going to be talking to the country about -- >> tacking the rich? they're against that. >> there are individuals out there that they can appeal to and my point is more broadly speaking that you cannot lump this -- what demint is doing and saying that all this gaggle of conservatives are going to be following behind it. >> i agree with that part. >> the split is much more than you think it is within the party. and so that's got to be reconciled to be honest about it. it's got to be reconcile and to your point and your question about what would i say? i would say, look -- >> you're center right. you think the country is like you. >> understand where the country is and that's where you need to be. >> rush limbaugh's show yesterday demint said conservatives problem is not their message. their problem is getting their message out. l
you have just said the skunt a center right country and your evidence of that is that obama won? >> no, that's your evidence. >> what evidence do you have that it's center right? >> what i'm talking about is on the issue that is the conservative movement is going to be talking to the country about -- >> tacking the rich? they're against that. >> there are individuals out there that they can appeal to and my point is more broadly speaking that you cannot lump this...
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if you were advising president obama, what would you do right now? what would you advise? >> well, he didn't call me, but if he had -- >> really? >> surprise. >> i would tell -- to be honest, i would tell him to take a few lessons from his defeated challenger. what i would do is i would focus primarily on four things. i would say, one, we need to get a better tax code, a much more pro-growth, pro-markets, pro-jobs tax code. we need to encourage economic trade with other countries. i mean really significant economic trade. one of the things i will give president obama credit for is he was able to get through the three free trade agreements that were negotiated by president bush at the end of his term and did not go through congress until president obama did that later on in his term. that's commendable. i'd like to see a lot more of that. the third would be a much more cautious dwrie regulation, the kind of regulation that actually works. more of a cost benefit analysis approach. the fourth is spending control. we jumped from 21% of gdp to 25% of gdp in spending in one year
if you were advising president obama, what would you do right now? what would you advise? >> well, he didn't call me, but if he had -- >> really? >> surprise. >> i would tell -- to be honest, i would tell him to take a few lessons from his defeated challenger. what i would do is i would focus primarily on four things. i would say, one, we need to get a better tax code, a much more pro-growth, pro-markets, pro-jobs tax code. we need to encourage economic trade with other...
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all right. we're waiting on news from the supreme court. they could finally decide to take up the issue of gay marriage today. next in the spinning, boehner and obama one on one. watch out, mr. speaker. you know the president knows how to drive to the hoop. "the cycle" rolls on friday, december 7th. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care
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you're absolutely right. politically this could be challenging for president obama, but at this point in time they're really looking at all the options and basically making the case reminding people that, look, this is still illegal under federal law. craig. >> what were the white house's options here, kristen? >> reporter: they have a couple options. one might be taking legal action against low-level offenders and then trying to make the case that ultimately federal law trumps state law. another option might be going straight at the state level and basically saying they don't have authority to regulation taxes and other initiatives when it comes to marijuana. craig. >> we look ahead to the president's inauguration next month. politico tweeting a few hours ago that president obama will accept unlimited corporate donations for his inauguration in january. that's a departure from four years ago. what's behind the change? >> reporter: it is a departure. the white house weighed in as well. we're not taking money
you're absolutely right. politically this could be challenging for president obama, but at this point in time they're really looking at all the options and basically making the case reminding people that, look, this is still illegal under federal law. craig. >> what were the white house's options here, kristen? >> reporter: they have a couple options. one might be taking legal action against low-level offenders and then trying to make the case that ultimately federal law trumps...
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so this is a pretty clean case right here for the court to decide whether they decide it on benefits, whether they decide it on the issue of equal protection. the obama administration has already said, it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act can really withhold this kind of a legal attack. so we'll see, but i think the question you raised, deborah, is the question that is before all of us right now. >> and -- >> if i can get a little technical here. there are ways that the supreme court could resolve both of these cases without engaging the substantive issues. when the court grants certiorari, they have granted in the windsor case, the defense of marriage act case, and the proposition 8 case out of california, they also agreed to decide the question of standing, which is do the -- do the -- are these cases even legitimately before the court? for example, in california, there is now a situation, and it this was the situation when the case was brought, the governor of california, the attorney general of california, all agree that this proposition 8 is uncon
so this is a pretty clean case right here for the court to decide whether they decide it on benefits, whether they decide it on the issue of equal protection. the obama administration has already said, it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act can really withhold this kind of a legal attack. so we'll see, but i think the question you raised, deborah, is the question that is before all of us right now. >> and -- >> if i can get a little technical here....
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said, may be marker rubio is right, we have a bit of a problem and we better do something about it. that has shaken up the politics of the issue. i think it has created the possibility for some movement on comprehensive immigration legislation that will also deal with this more particular issue you have been talking about today and we'll be talking about tonight. a sale of that to commend the miller center for having the incredible foresight to see this months ago and realize this was going to be the issue that everyone would want to talk about after the election and for assembling this great program today and this great panel. i think that all of you know that in washington, out productions are in in verse production of the person being introduced, which is why i had such a long and folsom introduction. i will be much more brief because i think that you know these three people very well. first of all, there is teresa sullivan, who was the president and was not president and is now president of the university of virginia. we are all very happy about that. she is also a professor of
said, may be marker rubio is right, we have a bit of a problem and we better do something about it. that has shaken up the politics of the issue. i think it has created the possibility for some movement on comprehensive immigration legislation that will also deal with this more particular issue you have been talking about today and we'll be talking about tonight. a sale of that to commend the miller center for having the incredible foresight to see this months ago and realize this was going to...
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you can see what they're looking at. >> right. you know, the one that -- he's not in this picture, but what jumps in my mind is the criticism that chris christie got over saying nice things when president obama went up to new jersey to tour the devastation. i just think the seriousness that's conveyed in this picture, i almost never say this. there are things in which politics takes a very far back seat. this is one of them. >> take a look at the next picture. we were talking a few minutes ago about possible cabinet choices. there's dennis mcdone noug on the right and jack lou is if he's the treasury secretary and tom lon lan, the national security adviser. the president is so comfortable with these insiders. these are great pictures by pete suza. look at air force one. the president is in marine one coming in behind. there's air force one that's a wonderful picture. finally, cabinet secretaries signing their own pictures. leon panetta and secretary chu and hillary clinton signing cabinet photos. thanks so much. chris, before you
you can see what they're looking at. >> right. you know, the one that -- he's not in this picture, but what jumps in my mind is the criticism that chris christie got over saying nice things when president obama went up to new jersey to tour the devastation. i just think the seriousness that's conveyed in this picture, i almost never say this. there are things in which politics takes a very far back seat. this is one of them. >> take a look at the next picture. we were talking a few...
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he is as hard right as rand paul. he's going to look a little -- >> i'll bet you a dollar on something like this he's going to be up there standing next to barack obama signing a deal. >> the other problem as jim demint is leaving, i'm leaving the senate a better place than when i came in. a senate with more democrats. >> very good point. >> a senate without sharron engle and christine o'donnell. >> do you want a governing party or ideologically pure party. now he's going to be unbound without any, you know, sort of guides on his statements to say whatever he wants and make it harder for them to have a governing majority in the senate. >> chairman steele, you get the last word here. >> the reality for the party, in light of everything that was just said, is simplies this, you can hang your hat on that ideological hook and stand and stand there and fight for the purity on the mountaintop, but the reality is, elections. and in two years, a lot of folks are going to be up for elections and in four years another president
he is as hard right as rand paul. he's going to look a little -- >> i'll bet you a dollar on something like this he's going to be up there standing next to barack obama signing a deal. >> the other problem as jim demint is leaving, i'm leaving the senate a better place than when i came in. a senate with more democrats. >> very good point. >> a senate without sharron engle and christine o'donnell. >> do you want a governing party or ideologically pure party. now...
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that's the big intelligence concern right now. this now has led the pentagon, as i think you would expect, to update its military opings planning so that it has options if president obama were to ask for them. and the big thing here is they now have some lobbyings they're looking at. multily sources of intelligence, they tell us, that they have that shows this activity is taking place. so it's not that president obama has necessarily made a decision to do anything. we don't know that, but what we know now is that inside the u.s. military really stepping up the planning, stepping up looking at the opings so they know how to do this if the president asks. if it seems there was intent by syria to use these weapons on its own citizens, that would be the red line. are we closer to that today? >> you know, we've talked a lot to 13er9s about this, and what people i've spoken to are observing is that red line seems to be being pushed a little bit on both sides. originally when the president spoke about it over the summer, it was any movem
that's the big intelligence concern right now. this now has led the pentagon, as i think you would expect, to update its military opings planning so that it has options if president obama were to ask for them. and the big thing here is they now have some lobbyings they're looking at. multily sources of intelligence, they tell us, that they have that shows this activity is taking place. so it's not that president obama has necessarily made a decision to do anything. we don't know that, but what...
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will have to push very hard to see that human rights and dr. c. and the promotion of those principles in iran is on that agenda, for most on that agenda and with the help of fdd we will help do that. congratulations on your human rights panel this morning. congratulations on all you do, and one more time, i want to tell you the intellectual information, the data that you provide is absolutely essential. thank you for that and i think at that point we will take some questions. thank you. [applause] >> thank you so much. it is clear to all of us why you have been entrusted with this very important gaveled of cheering house foreign affairs committee following the very, very able leadership of the chairman. i understand we are on a tighter schedule and i realized and in a moment i am going to call up kenneth schwartz to introduce senator casey but i would be remiss if i didn't welcome the president here today, lieutenant colonel larry bird walk. in 1983 he was the commander of an amphibious unit in lebanon. in october of 1983, hezbollah terrorists
will have to push very hard to see that human rights and dr. c. and the promotion of those principles in iran is on that agenda, for most on that agenda and with the help of fdd we will help do that. congratulations on your human rights panel this morning. congratulations on all you do, and one more time, i want to tell you the intellectual information, the data that you provide is absolutely essential. thank you for that and i think at that point we will take some questions. thank you....
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"new york times" saying it's one on one right now with the speaker and the president yet some leading democrats are saying, no, that's not the case. that they are still involved in the process. what do you know about that? >> well, it seems to me it's a pretty close circle at this point. an awful lot of us have been involved in the bipartisan efforts for 2 1/2 years. we understand that it's important to give the president and speaker some space. those of us who actually have plans that were north of $4 trillion in debt reduction, we're ready to add our shoulders to the wheel at the same time. >> so pelosi is not involved at this point? >> i can't say what senator reid and nancy pelosi are doing. i think the main talks are between the speaker and the president. looking at plans like the simpson/bowles plan, the gang of six plan, they all included discussions with tax rates up at 39%, the '90s rates, what the president is requesting right now. my hope is the sooner the better. one of the things we're doing to the economy, we saw the jobs numbers. we're pretty good today. this economy wa
"new york times" saying it's one on one right now with the speaker and the president yet some leading democrats are saying, no, that's not the case. that they are still involved in the process. what do you know about that? >> well, it seems to me it's a pretty close circle at this point. an awful lot of us have been involved in the bipartisan efforts for 2 1/2 years. we understand that it's important to give the president and speaker some space. those of us who actually have...
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right now there is nothing on the table. that was obama's opening bid. the republicans were miffed at him, they knew he wouldn't give them exactly what they'd accept. a few said they were inch superintendented like that. again you don't want to negotiate with yourself, you want to start over here and get in the middle to set up some type of deal. don't expect any deal until christmas at the earliest. >> reporter: let's go back to the tax cuts you're talking about. president obama wants to raise revenue by taxing those making $250,000 or more a year. it rises from 33% and 35% today to 36% and 39.6%, i believe. but that would only generate about 85 billion a year. according to the treasury department, the federal government spends that amount every eight 1/2 days. do you think that the point is purely political for the president since that's what he campaigned on? >> that is what speaker john boehner said, is that washington has a spending problem, not a tax problem. but speaker john boehner has a political problem in that their party's guy lost the electi
right now there is nothing on the table. that was obama's opening bid. the republicans were miffed at him, they knew he wouldn't give them exactly what they'd accept. a few said they were inch superintendented like that. again you don't want to negotiate with yourself, you want to start over here and get in the middle to set up some type of deal. don't expect any deal until christmas at the earliest. >> reporter: let's go back to the tax cuts you're talking about. president obama wants to...
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. >> is he right, perry? it's not physical but when? >> i think he's right about that. you're seeing a lot of republicans, billy kristol and others say that there's going to be about $1 trillion in tax increases. president obama won the election. he's pressing on that. now we're seeing tom cole of oklahoma and other republicans saying that let's get through this process and move on to the next issue. a lot of them have seceded this fight. president obama has a lot of refer rage. >> a lot of members in congress are talking about this but they don't really have any influence in it just looking at outside. not everybody is happy about it. bernie sanders, the independent from vermont, says that the senate needs to find a way to make its self more relevant and, you know, it seems like their question, david, is is this any way to run a democracy? >> this is the only way to get a deal. the members have a right to vote against anything that they are against. but there's no way that you can have a negotiation between two competing sides if you have one individual on one side and
. >> is he right, perry? it's not physical but when? >> i think he's right about that. you're seeing a lot of republicans, billy kristol and others say that there's going to be about $1 trillion in tax increases. president obama won the election. he's pressing on that. now we're seeing tom cole of oklahoma and other republicans saying that let's get through this process and move on to the next issue. a lot of them have seceded this fight. president obama has a lot of refer rage....
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instead he offered to give up just one of his new powers, vaguely worded right to take all necessary measures to affect the country. he said he would give up the other powers once the referendum had taken place. also yesterday, president obama telephoned president morsi to express his deep concern over the violence and deaths that have occurred. he also urged president morsi to have a dialogue with the opposition without any preconditions. for "cbs this morning," holly williams, cairo. >>> in syria this morning, rebel troops declared the airport in damascus to be a fair target, warning civilians to stay away. growing concern that syria's government to use chemical weapons. hillary clinton joined her russian counterpart. this morning, elizabeth palmer reports, hillary clinton says there are no easy answers. >> meetings yesterday were important but just the beginning and added nobody should believe it represented a breakthrough. clinton was more frank on president bashar al assad's lack of a place in seary's polityria future. >> every syrian must be included in this process for a new a
instead he offered to give up just one of his new powers, vaguely worded right to take all necessary measures to affect the country. he said he would give up the other powers once the referendum had taken place. also yesterday, president obama telephoned president morsi to express his deep concern over the violence and deaths that have occurred. he also urged president morsi to have a dialogue with the opposition without any preconditions. for "cbs this morning," holly williams,...
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bill: president obama repeats his opposition to the law as michigan becomes the 24th right-to-work state in america. as you see how it is spreading there in blue. steve moore, senior economics writer, "wall street journal." matt mccall, president of penn financial group. gentlemen, good morning to you. steve, what does it mean for michigan? by the way it is not signed into law yet. they have a five-day grace period. what does it mean. >> this story is shocker, bill. we heard about it tuesday. they caught the unions napping. it is huge for michigan. it is old industrial state. epicenter of the old rust belt. my studies and a lot of others show, states of right to work where the jobs are going. we covered that story last year when boeing wanted to move its facility out of washington to south carolina one of the reasons they wanted to do that, bill, because south carolina is a right-to-work state. it is huge for the economic future of michigan. the other point i would like to make, bill, unions say this is anti-worker, when in fact it is exactly opposite. all right to work laws do, people g
bill: president obama repeats his opposition to the law as michigan becomes the 24th right-to-work state in america. as you see how it is spreading there in blue. steve moore, senior economics writer, "wall street journal." matt mccall, president of penn financial group. gentlemen, good morning to you. steve, what does it mean for michigan? by the way it is not signed into law yet. they have a five-day grace period. what does it mean. >> this story is shocker, bill. we heard...
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>> that's right. you can go back and look at the writings of others, who would have opposed president obama's approach. it was identified early on that business cycles, recessions and recoveries tend to be driven by investment. consumers are pretty steady, but investment can be wildly fluctuating. it can go way down and way ut. so his view of stabilization policy was to try to stabilize investment and not to focus on consumption. one reason why we have had such a disappointing recovery, we haven't addressed why investment is so weak. we are an unattractive place to invest right now. >> some would say why don't you accept the higher tax rate? it doesn't help the economy. it hurts it. it is a serious proposal. i have always disagreed with some of your issues, but i think you are right that there are things holding down the debt ratio. are we acting to find a sustainable path forward on them. that will be more important than in fact number on discretionary spending or tax cuts themselves. do you think th
>> that's right. you can go back and look at the writings of others, who would have opposed president obama's approach. it was identified early on that business cycles, recessions and recoveries tend to be driven by investment. consumers are pretty steady, but investment can be wildly fluctuating. it can go way down and way ut. so his view of stabilization policy was to try to stabilize investment and not to focus on consumption. one reason why we have had such a disappointing recovery,...
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of heart of president obama. check out what he told jon stewart on "the daily show." >> people have different skill sets at different times. >> so he wasn't a leader until you needed leadership? >> maybe until he was presented with a stark opportunity. >> "thursday night football" the denver broncos beat the oakland raiders 26-13. that's eight straight wins for the broncos. one sad note. a fan fell from the top deck of the coliseum during that game. he is hospitalized and he is in serious condition. it's a dreadful thing. >> certainly hope he can recover. that's terrible. >>> let's turn and talk about a story we chatted about yesterday. the cover story for "time" magazine. we were talking about it and that was the picture. that's the commissioner talking about some of the ways he was hoping to reform the sport of football so it has less of a toll on the athletes. among the ideas on the table were doing away with kickoffs, which are seen to be one of the most dangerous elements of the game. it's only a suggestion
of heart of president obama. check out what he told jon stewart on "the daily show." >> people have different skill sets at different times. >> so he wasn't a leader until you needed leadership? >> maybe until he was presented with a stark opportunity. >> "thursday night football" the denver broncos beat the oakland raiders 26-13. that's eight straight wins for the broncos. one sad note. a fan fell from the top deck of the coliseum during that game....
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cheney right? we'll talk to geraldo about it. >> brian: the most popular video on the planet. ♪ [ laughter ] >> brian: gangam style so hot, even grandmas are doing it. look at that. >> gretchen: oh, oh. >> brian: we are looking live at that. that wasn't rehearseed. live here on "fox & friends" only. >> gretchen: this is live out of phoenix. these are some lovely young ladies who are getting into the gangam spirit and in about 62 minutes from now, they're going to teach me how to do this gangam dance and i'm a little bit nervous because they are really busting a move right now. all right, ladies, keep it going. >> steve: it was just last week that geraldo rivera himself busted a move where he did the gangam. it is a craze that is sweeping the nation, and you know how much this nation needs sweeping. >> we need some heavy, heavy sweeping. [ laughter ] >> steve: any fallout from the gangam dance last week? >> yeah, they told me to stick to radio. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: oh, oh,. >> steve: he's par
cheney right? we'll talk to geraldo about it. >> brian: the most popular video on the planet. ♪ [ laughter ] >> brian: gangam style so hot, even grandmas are doing it. look at that. >> gretchen: oh, oh. >> brian: we are looking live at that. that wasn't rehearseed. live here on "fox & friends" only. >> gretchen: this is live out of phoenix. these are some lovely young ladies who are getting into the gangam spirit and in about 62 minutes from now,...
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but they are moving in the right direction and moving fast. these are first steps, and encouraging ones. >> really encouraging. and it's not just what they're saying. it's how they're saying it. eric cantor came on. we've all, i think at times, even i as a conservative, who would vote probably along with eric cantor 99% of the time. saw him at times over the past couple years being a bit more obstructionist than i think was good for the party. i thought i loved his tone the other day. what did he focus on? he focused on jobs, on proving that conservatism actually helped all americans, not 53%, not 47%. and yesterday when i talked to jim demint on the phone, i expected to hear one thing. instead i heard another. which is we've all been chained to this republican message. we have got to prove again that conservatism helps all americans. we've done a terrible job delivering that message. we've elected leaders that don't believe in that message. and he talked, just like eric cantor talk ed again, not about ideology, but instead saying, how do we s
but they are moving in the right direction and moving fast. these are first steps, and encouraging ones. >> really encouraging. and it's not just what they're saying. it's how they're saying it. eric cantor came on. we've all, i think at times, even i as a conservative, who would vote probably along with eric cantor 99% of the time. saw him at times over the past couple years being a bit more obstructionist than i think was good for the party. i thought i loved his tone the other day....
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. >> they didn't have control of their parties basically right? does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through the house of representatives. but everything that has happened since the election all of the moves in the republican caucus have been about boehner consolidating control over that tea party caucus that didn't allow boehner to get a deal in 2011. >> there will be some criticism about it being two people at the table. will they get a deal done? >> i think there's some criticism from republicans about secret negotiations. i hate to break to to people in washington, but all negotiations over policy are secret in washington. that's how legislation gets done. you have to be in a room with negotiators to cut a deal. i wouldn't fret. >> they get criticized for not talking to each other and criticized for how to talk to each other. king maker, leaving before his term is up. says he could be more effective outside of the senate. what are they making of this in washington? >> a lot of people say the allure of a thi
. >> they didn't have control of their parties basically right? does john boehner have more control? >> they think obama can get anything through the house of representatives. but everything that has happened since the election all of the moves in the republican caucus have been about boehner consolidating control over that tea party caucus that didn't allow boehner to get a deal in 2011. >> there will be some criticism about it being two people at the table. will they get a...
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that is the battle line in the republican party right now. the guys who want purity, more tea party, versus the guys who want a supermajority. no more obama cares. heritage versus crossroads. karl rove versus jim demint. pass me the popcorn. joining me, dave weigel of "slate" and msnbc contributor. dave, it is good to see you here tonight. >> good to see you, ezra. >> so is this what it kind of looks like? do you see demint and heritage as consolidating power here and making, and vying for leadership of the tea party wing of the party? >> no, i like the way that you put that. freedom works is going through an awkward patch right now. heritage has actually been expanding into that terrain long before any problems that occurred at freedom works. heritage in 2010, point out, launched heritage action, 501-c3 which is renting the floor space in the rest of the heritage building and has been aggressively campaigning. during the congressional voting season against republicans, getting them to vote their way on various bills. irritating a lot of peop
that is the battle line in the republican party right now. the guys who want purity, more tea party, versus the guys who want a supermajority. no more obama cares. heritage versus crossroads. karl rove versus jim demint. pass me the popcorn. joining me, dave weigel of "slate" and msnbc contributor. dave, it is good to see you here tonight. >> good to see you, ezra. >> so is this what it kind of looks like? do you see demint and heritage as consolidating power here and...
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but i would also say to the republics, obama won. it's like all this whining about that. i mean, they are like the japanese soldiers in the pacific after world war ii still fighting the battle way into the 1950s. he won. it's over and the fiscal cliff is either -- the taxes are going to go up on these rich people one way are 00 other. >> bill: they are going to go up on everybody. as howard dean said at the top of the program. the rich people are going to pay much more which is a good reason not to buy gutfeld's book because if you do he is going to have to pay more in taxes next year because that's when the royalties will come into him. everybody is going to have to pay more taxes because we're in such dire trouble. now, gutfeld, do you believe the average guy -- and i'm not being arrogant here. do they know what's at stake or care about this? >> it could be simple find if you just told them that it is not about revenue. it's about spending. when you look at a really fat guy, is he fat not because he ran out of food. he he is fat because he ate too much. that's all you h
but i would also say to the republics, obama won. it's like all this whining about that. i mean, they are like the japanese soldiers in the pacific after world war ii still fighting the battle way into the 1950s. he won. it's over and the fiscal cliff is either -- the taxes are going to go up on these rich people one way are 00 other. >> bill: they are going to go up on everybody. as howard dean said at the top of the program. the rich people are going to pay much more which is a good...
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they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. that's what w. did and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on time. he knows it's an unclear dimension, nobody knows, i don't know, how bad the whirlwinds will be if we fail to do this on time. and one thing for certain, there's no guarantee that a huge drop in faith by the world economic markets will be followed by a quick rebound. as i said, this is a real cliff, not a bungee jump. that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" starts with al sharpton. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" from new york. senator jim demint has met his waterloo. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> one republican senator said, i'm quoting him now, if we're able to stop obama on this, it will be his waterloo. it will break him. think about that. >> jim demint is cutting and running. john boehner is in a box. grover norquist near oblivion. karl rove benched on fox news. and the real action of barack obama has
they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. that's what w. did and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on time. he knows it's an unclear dimension, nobody knows, i don't know, how bad the whirlwinds will be if we fail to do this on time. and one thing for certain, there's no guarantee that a huge drop in faith by the world economic markets will be followed by a quick...
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this is the kind of effort that helped president obama win a second term. now we'll see if his grassroots army can convince republicans to do what's right by the american people. i'm joined tonight by democratic strategist donna gentile-o'donnell and msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor, michael eric dyson. great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> i just want to go right to this poll. this quinnipiac poll was released today, and it shows the majority of the american people want tax rates to go up for the top 2%. donna, what about this? i mean, i don't think we can find a poll out there anywhere that supports john boehner and his position. why won't he cave? >> well, i think boehner would like to. i think he'd like to do a deal. i think alan simpson characterized it best when he talked about the dynamic in the republican caucus. boehner is trying to lead and standing right behind him is eric cantor and these were simpson's words, holding a shiv, checking out that job. i think the disconnects in the caucus are reflected by a
this is the kind of effort that helped president obama win a second term. now we'll see if his grassroots army can convince republicans to do what's right by the american people. i'm joined tonight by democratic strategist donna gentile-o'donnell and msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor, michael eric dyson. great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. >> i just want to go right to this poll. this quinnipiac poll was released today, and it shows the...
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president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. that's what w. did and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on time. he knows it's an unc
president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. that's what w. did and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he looks like he's already doing, getting it done right and on time. he knows it's an unc
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businesses are making decisions right now about investment and hiring. they don't have confidence that we can get this thing done, they will start pulling back and we could have a lousy time in our haqqani for the next several months. >> the president made the remarks while visiting with the virginia family to talk about the budget crisis. >> for now, the stalled negotiations cannot seem to be affecting local holiday shopping and events in and around baltimore. >> harbour east is one of the air is a special -- with special events going on throughout the city. winter wonderland promotes local artists and shoppers can get free parking. it is about promoting business and luring in those customers. [cheers] >> it is that time of year, holiday events, drinks, good food, and shopping. >> i think things are getting better for us. customers are shopping more, it seems. >> the festivities going on in the city and people getting excited. they are coming dampier >> and merchants say they need those special events -- they are coming down. >> and merchants say they n
businesses are making decisions right now about investment and hiring. they don't have confidence that we can get this thing done, they will start pulling back and we could have a lousy time in our haqqani for the next several months. >> the president made the remarks while visiting with the virginia family to talk about the budget crisis. >> for now, the stalled negotiations cannot seem to be affecting local holiday shopping and events in and around baltimore. >> harbour east...
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state. >> byron is right. this was the exact thing they voters for obama decided to shoot down this union bill. >> it's surprising. >> it caught us all by surprise. it isn't going to be like wisconsin. i think this bill is going to pass. and the situation in wisconsin was different. you had to get a quorum, and they tried to prevent a vote on the bill and took a month of protests. i don't think that will happen. just need a simple majority in michigan and they will pass the bill and they won't have a chance to repeal it until 2014. they will have to win back the senate, the house and the governor. >> it is likely to stop in michigan. you look at states with right to work legislation, the whole deep south and a couple states in the west but the upper midwest and northeast has tried to stay away from that because of the strong tradition of union organizing in the state. you have indiana going the other direction and michigan looking like they might, and wisconsin could be next up although the governor hasn't sai
state. >> byron is right. this was the exact thing they voters for obama decided to shoot down this union bill. >> it's surprising. >> it caught us all by surprise. it isn't going to be like wisconsin. i think this bill is going to pass. and the situation in wisconsin was different. you had to get a quorum, and they tried to prevent a vote on the bill and took a month of protests. i don't think that will happen. just need a simple majority in michigan and they will pass the...
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everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> president obama took the fiscal cliff fight to virginia today. he sat down with this falls church family to talk about how ending the bush era tax cuts would affect them. if ty expire at the end of the month, the average family of four would pay about $2,200 extra in taxes. the president says he's in favor of extending tax breaks for people making $250,000 a year or less but not for the top 2%. >> i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates. >> going over the fiscal cliff also means the 2% payroll tax holiday would expire. it would mean cuts in unemployment benefits for millions of families. lawmakers have until december 31st to agree on a deal.
everything has to be just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. >>> this is fox 5 news at 10:00. >>> president obama took the fiscal cliff fight to virginia today. he sat down with this falls church family to talk about how ending the bush era tax cuts would affect them. if ty expire at the end of the month, the average family of four would pay about $2,200 extra in taxes. the president says he's in favor of extending...
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. >> if obama was standing right here i would tell him that he lied, he never kept his promise, and we are still without a place to live. >> we need him to step up to the plate and to give us that extra fema money. >> we don't need bottled water or blankets or garbage bags we need housing and money. that's what we need. >> obama, you are going on vacation to hawaii for 21 days with your family. wow. new york is suffering. >> i don't know where i'm going to be this christmas. i really don't. i hope i'm not in this house. >> you will be enjoying the sun in hawaii while i'll be enjoying no lights in my house. not fair. on our tax dollars you are enjoying a trip while i'm still homeless. not fair. >> mr. president, are you listening? i was watching your interview, you were in for kneel yesterday, and the one guy that mentioned the finger, there's no fema, there's no answers, there's no government help. all there were were photo ops and good-bye. >> i asked where he was and he was standing in front of his house. we tried to book him to come into the studio and he said he can't leave because
. >> if obama was standing right here i would tell him that he lied, he never kept his promise, and we are still without a place to live. >> we need him to step up to the plate and to give us that extra fema money. >> we don't need bottled water or blankets or garbage bags we need housing and money. that's what we need. >> obama, you are going on vacation to hawaii for 21 days with your family. wow. new york is suffering. >> i don't know where i'm going to be this...
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president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. fortunately for him the voters remember how bad they were. that's one reason they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. it's about being smart and not putting the country at risk for ideological gain. that's what w. and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he's already doing, from the looks of things, get this deal done right and get it done on time. he knows fail to cut this on schedule is a risk of unclear dimension. nobody knows, i don't, how bad the whirlwinds will be if he
president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. fortunately for him the voters remember how bad they were. that's one reason they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. it's about being smart and not putting the country at risk for ideological gain. that's what w. and his crowd did. i want president obama to do what he's already doing, from the looks of things, get this deal...
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president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. fortunately for him the voters remember how bad they were. that's one reason they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. it's about being smart and not putting the country a
president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. fortunately for him the voters remember how bad they were. that's one reason they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. it's about being smart and not putting the country a
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as a strategy, maybe it's the right thing? acknowledge that the american people voted for the president, put him back in office. it's all on you. >> well, it's simple, i think. republicans are cognizant of what the people said. the plan they put out raises revenue on rich people. they are asking for the president to give a response including both tax proposals and the spending proposals that are necessary to make the plan be balanced, and they'll negotiate from there, from the second day after the election, speaker boehner said we hear the american people, they want washington to work, that means compromise, leadership, but, you know, we're not seeing all the pieces yet. gerri: what do you think of the idea of saying, okay, democrats, it's on you. you want to raise taxes? you want to flirt with putting the economy into recession? have at it. >> that is essentially what the white house is up to right now. they said, in an era where americansment compromise, the president not compromising, this is what i want, and for that polit
as a strategy, maybe it's the right thing? acknowledge that the american people voted for the president, put him back in office. it's all on you. >> well, it's simple, i think. republicans are cognizant of what the people said. the plan they put out raises revenue on rich people. they are asking for the president to give a response including both tax proposals and the spending proposals that are necessary to make the plan be balanced, and they'll negotiate from there, from the second day...
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in obama added this little thing the other day. he said i don't want a debt ceiling or bound like it going for it. debt doesn't matter. >> bob: respond to the social security thing. >> eric: obama in october of 2008 before he was president obama. season. >> the way bush has done it, over the last eight years is to take out a credit cardback of china in the game of the children, driving up the national debt. that is irresponsible and unpatriotic. >> eric: unpatriotic. $5 trillion in debt. president obama will add ten, 11, 12 trillion in debt. when he is done with this. >> for years, president obama running when he was senator, running for president always said that the bush tax cuts were only for the rich and only benefit the rich. now he says that the republicans are holding hostage for the lower and middle class. the tax cuts will expire. hypocrisy knows no bounds. >> bob: you just keep shooting your mouth off over and over about this stuff. i said if they came up with a deal on inflation adjustment on social security it would sav
in obama added this little thing the other day. he said i don't want a debt ceiling or bound like it going for it. debt doesn't matter. >> bob: respond to the social security thing. >> eric: obama in october of 2008 before he was president obama. season. >> the way bush has done it, over the last eight years is to take out a credit cardback of china in the game of the children, driving up the national debt. that is irresponsible and unpatriotic. >> eric: unpatriotic. $5...